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Who is your guru?

I have no guru. It is not that I was seeking enlightenment and I finally

became enlightened. For me from day one it's the same thing. This Vijay

Kumar to Bhagavan transformation happened in a place called Somangalam,

Madras, where we had retreats. Some people began to see me coming in a

horse - a vision, with a sword and all that. So they began to use the

word Kalki. Slowly it began to spread. And they were composing some

songs and they were singing. That's how it got stuck. We made some

efforts to remove that name. But the more we made efforts the more it

got stuck. Especially, people in North India refused to accept any other

name.

But I am not saying that I am the Kalki of the puranas. So I am not

claiming all those things at all. Simply it's a name. What I am

maintaining is - Yes, I can give Enlightenment. I have the power to give

Enlightenment. This is the highest. In India it is believed that only

the greatest Avatar of God can give Enlightenment. That's the general

belief. You can do miracles, but giving Enlightenment is a different

story. I am not claiming anything more.

You come, whether you have faith or not, belief or not, I can still give

it to you. That's all there is to it.

Is there Mukthi? Is it possible to achieve?

Yes... hundreds achieved Mukthi. Thousands infact. Not just hundreds.

Its not a question of - can they achieve. They have achieved it. It's

over. You should meet and talk to them. You must meet Mukthas.

Is it possible to picturise that state of mind?

You can't picturise it.

Do all the Mukthas have miraculous power?

Not exactly. Some have the power to heal and some don't have. Not that

every Muktha has got the power to do something. Some have, some don't

have. That depends upon what you are seeking. Some have no interest in

miracles, so for such people we won't give those powers.

Is it possible to eliminate Human suffering through Dhyana?

See, Dhyana can help reduce the suffering a little bit. Beyond that any

Sadhanas are useless. All Sadhanas are only up to a point. After that

the returns are not there. It's not worth it. Up to a point, yes it's

OK. The only solution is Enlightenment. When Enlightenment happens you

are in a state of Dhyana 24 hours.

For all social, political and economical problems, is Enlightenment the

solution?

Yes.

Only solution?

Yes. The only solution. The ultimate solution. Let us say a man and a

woman are fighting. Suppose he or she is enlightened, there is no fight.

The Gundas in this Village (Varadhayapalem, Andhra Pradesh) are

conducting Sathsang now. This is a place where, when I came, people told

me - Why did you come to this place? It is such a terrible place. Full

of wife-beating. I said - I want exactly that place. Today the Gundas

are conducting sathsangs. So what has happened is transformation. They

don't drink. There is no wife beating. Everything has happened. Here,

water used to stagnate and there used to be cesspool everywhere. Now

everybody is co-operating. So, there is drainage and water does not

stagnate anywhere. There is a health

revolution taking place. People have stopped drinking. There is no wife

beating. There is love in the family. Everything is changing, through

Enlightenment. What could not be achieved by any rural organization has

been achieved by transforming the person.

What is the real meaning of Enlightenment?

See, to be enlightened is not to feel separate from the other. You are

there. You feel you are separate from all these people. Suppose you are

to become enlightened, you will say you only are the other. If you feel

that way, where can there be conflict? There can only be love. Isn't it?

That's all there is to it. And always there is happiness also. A happy

person cannot trouble others. An unhappy person will be pinching other.

Will give pain to others. After Enlightenment nobody gives trouble to

another. Everybody is happy. You will find in this village, all people

gathering, singing and dancing. All kinds. Caste is not a problem. Once

you are Enlightened there is no caste. The Harijan, the Bramhin, all

will be singing and dancing. Everything goes off. The caste is gone.

Muslims dancing with Hindus - you can see it in this

village. Everything has happened because they are in a different state.

They are all helping. You don't find street fights. Completely

transformed. And we had taken up this place because it was a horrible

place. That's where we have proved it. Total transformation.

Every month we are having a program. At least 500 people come for

Enlightenment from the local villages. People are standing in a queue,

because we cannot take more than that. It is spreading very fast.

Imagine the whole of India Enlightened. Then, what happens to all the

problems that we are talking about? There is a coolie in this village

who is Enlightened. Now, every rich man wants her to come their house

and perform Kalasha Pooja in their house. It's a pride to invite her to

their house now. All social dynamics have changed.

Westerners are also watching us very closely, because their interest is

that, if it can be done in other in other countries then terrorism can

be avoided. That is their interest. Therefore they are studying us very

closely. How come people are getting transformed so suddenly? Because

this does not take much time. Yesterday you were very ordinary. Today

you are transformed. Just 24 hours. And it's irreversible and permanent.

So what more can somebody ask for? Poor people in villages are dancing

in joy and they call their dance "The dance of Freedom". Even the

richest man in Karnataka cannot have 1/1000th of their joy. And ofcourse

along with this joy you will also become prosperous. The mind is so

clear. Whatever they touch, it is successful.

If Veerapan or Bin Laden are given the Deeksha, will they also be transformed?

Yes. If you bring Veerappan or Bin Laden, they'll be completely

transformed. It'll be over. Anybody can be transformed. Straight from

jail you can bring them. In regular jails of Andra Pradesh, we brought

about tremendous transformation. Strangely their cases have been

dismissed and they all have gone out also without criticizing the

Government (at Srikakulam). We have also had requests from other

countries like Siberia to go and work in their jails.

What are the means to become happy?

To me happiness is when you help others. But helping others is not so

easy. When I do this Neuro-Biological transformation, you naturally feel

like helping others. And as you help others you become happy. You can

try and see. When you help you become happy. But you must be naturally

helping others, which is a state of mind.

What is your expectation from the press?

The press must play a very constructive role in building the society. It

is very often portraying negative news. It must do something very

positive because it is a very powerful tool. It can really push people

to do certain things. If that can be achieved it is a great thing.

How is it going to be in the next 10 years?

I am producing Enlightened people by the hundreds everyday. Soon it's

going to be an explosion. I will say this is the last phase of man. It

is like - Man has been building a house for so many thousands of years

now. And 2004 to 2012 is the grahapravesham. Man has reached the final

stage after all these years of struggle. You will see a very different

world, which you cannot even imagine now and it will happen very

fast,very, very fast.